From adell at ucla.edu  Mon Feb  6 06:19:38 2012
From: adell at ucla.edu (Anthony Dell)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 22:19:38 -0800
Subject: [Motmot] new fview plugin error following system updates (linux
	10.04)
Message-ID: <022F5577-563A-4613-8045-49D64B37D633@ucla.edu>

Hi all,

I recently added updates to my Linux 10.04 system (which i think included an update to python) and i now get this error message when i start fview. if i click ok then i can can still open and use fview, and the saved movies seem to be fully functional.

i tried reinstalling fview but still the error persists.

any ideas?

thanks,

Tony

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fview plugin error

While attempting to open the plugin "fview_ufmf_saver",
FView encountered an error. The error is:

No module named FastImage.FastImage

More details:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/motmot/fview/plugin_manager.py", line 37, in load_plugins
    PluginClass = entry_point.load()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 1948, in load
    entry = __import__(self.module_name, globals(),globals(), ['__name__'])
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/motmot/ufmf/ufmf_flytrax.py", line 8, in <module>
    import motmot.FastImage.FastImage as FastImage
ImportError: No module named FastImage.FastImage

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Anthony I Dell

Department of Biomathematics
David Geffen School of Medicine
University of California Los Angeles   
10833 Le Conte Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90095

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From hellothota at gmail.com  Wed Mar 21 15:40:37 2012
From: hellothota at gmail.com (Anil Thota)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:40:37 -0400
Subject: [Motmot] Basler IEEE camera on Mac
Message-ID: <CAKP-u0NBGQs2LKeBpt-U+zUdXYy+E6vBn1w6gGN=RgQ6fURs+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I am trying to use this software to collect video data using Basler
IEEE ScA640120fm. Is there any comprehensive instructions on
installing this software. Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks
Anil

From andrew.straw at imp.ac.at  Thu Mar 22 08:37:59 2012
From: andrew.straw at imp.ac.at (Andrew Straw)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:37:59 +0100
Subject: [Motmot] Basler IEEE camera on Mac
In-Reply-To: <38e7b0518e2040978373bb1176cafbc6@IMPEXCH10FRONT.imp.univie.ac.at>
References: <38e7b0518e2040978373bb1176cafbc6@IMPEXCH10FRONT.imp.univie.ac.at>
Message-ID: <4F6AE4E7.4000908@imp.ac.at>

Dear Anil,

The quickest and easiest approach is to follow the Ubuntu instructions 
here: http://code.astraw.com/projects/motmot/download.html#id4
To use your camera at full framerate, you'll have to set the 
DC1394_BACKEND_1394B environment variable. You'd do this from the 
command line by doing this:

export DC1394_BACKEND_1394B="1"

before starting your acquisition program (fview?) from the command line.

Best regards,
Andrew



On 21-Mar-12 16:40, Anil Thota wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am trying to use this software to collect video data using Basler
> IEEE ScA640120fm. Is there any comprehensive instructions on
> installing this software. Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks
> Anil
> _______________________________________________
> Motmot mailing list
> Motmot at code.astraw.com
> http://code.astraw.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/motmot


-- 
Andrew D. Straw, Ph.D.
Research Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP)
Vienna, Austria
http://strawlab.org/


From hellothota at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 11:31:56 2012
From: hellothota at gmail.com (Anil Thota)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:31:56 -0400
Subject: [Motmot] Basler IEEE camera on Mac
In-Reply-To: <4F6AE4E7.4000908@imp.ac.at>
References: <38e7b0518e2040978373bb1176cafbc6@IMPEXCH10FRONT.imp.univie.ac.at>
	<4F6AE4E7.4000908@imp.ac.at>
Message-ID: <38D56313-0375-470F-B844-8F04C8D1D272@gmail.com>

Dear Dr. Straw,
Thank you very much for your help. I will try either today or tomorrow.
Anil 

On Mar 22, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Andrew Straw <andrew.straw at imp.ac.at> wrote:

> Dear Anil,
> 
> The quickest and easiest approach is to follow the Ubuntu instructions 
> here: http://code.astraw.com/projects/motmot/download.html#id4
> To use your camera at full framerate, you'll have to set the 
> DC1394_BACKEND_1394B environment variable. You'd do this from the 
> command line by doing this:
> 
> export DC1394_BACKEND_1394B="1"
> 
> before starting your acquisition program (fview?) from the command line.
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On 21-Mar-12 16:40, Anil Thota wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I am trying to use this software to collect video data using Basler
>> IEEE ScA640120fm. Is there any comprehensive instructions on
>> installing this software. Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks
>> Anil
>> _______________________________________________
>> Motmot mailing list
>> Motmot at code.astraw.com
>> http://code.astraw.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/motmot
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andrew D. Straw, Ph.D.
> Research Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP)
> Vienna, Austria
> http://strawlab.org/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Motmot mailing list
> Motmot at code.astraw.com
> http://code.astraw.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/motmot

From jessfox at ucla.edu  Tue Apr  3 22:53:41 2012
From: jessfox at ucla.edu (Jessica Fox)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:53:41 -0700
Subject: [Motmot] registering plugins
Message-ID: <CADyTYN7OGHKvDHqSf_395sESP-1g3grBrtOEDOm8Vq8gFCx+-g@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to register the fview_histogram plugin with fview and I'm a
little confused about how it works. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and I have the
Enthought python installed (python 2.7). When I download and install the
various motmot pieces (motmot.fview-0.6.7, for example), they land in my
home folder (/home/myusername/motmot.fview-0.6.7) and there's a file in
there called setup.py. I then type "sudo python setup.py install" in the
terminal to install it.

However, when I modify that setup.py (in the fview folder) to register the
plugin and then launch fview, it appears that fview isn't running from that
location; it's running from /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages, where
there are several python eggs. Here, there isn't a setup.py file I can
modify, and fview can't seem to find the Enthought stuff (it's having
trouble with "import enthought.traits.api as traits"). That it's asking for
python 2.6 instead of 2.7 is a clue that it's not finding the right files
somewhere. I'm confused on how I can register the plugin in such a way that
fview can find it.

I'm brand new to both Linux and Python, so my apologies if these are
elementary questions. Ultimately, I want to run Flytrax. Right now, both
FastImage and wxvideo aren't installing correctly from the download (i.e.,
I can download and extract the tarball and run "sudo python setup.py
install" and it fails partway through), so there may be some issues with
those, but I wanted to get fview_histogram running first.

On the plus, I'm running a Basler camera and it gets along just fine with
fview, so that's excellent! This will be super cool if I can get it running.

Thank you!

Jessica Fox, UCLA


-- 
Jessica L. Fox, PhD
HHMI/UCLA Postdoctoral Associate
Frye Lab, Terasaki Life Sciences Building
Los Angeles, CA
jessfox at ucla.edu
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From johnabender at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 00:54:14 2012
From: johnabender at gmail.com (John Bender)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:54:14 -0700
Subject: [Motmot] registering plugins
In-Reply-To: <CADyTYN7OGHKvDHqSf_395sESP-1g3grBrtOEDOm8Vq8gFCx+-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADyTYN7OGHKvDHqSf_395sESP-1g3grBrtOEDOm8Vq8gFCx+-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAuHXrScj8KNtuogA=YBpqst6XP7OYYhoZzbO5zSVAUfA033bg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jess,

I can't say for sure what's happening on your machine, but I had some
similar trouble recently. On my machine, running a command-line
installation of a motmot plugin puts stuff in
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages, just like yours. However,
fview is installed from Andrew's repository, and its files all live in
/usr/share/pyshared/motmot/. So if I want to install something and
have fview know about it, I have to create a symbolic link in the
latter location. In my case, the command is 'sudo ln -s
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/motmot.plugin.egg/motmot/plugin
/usr/share/pyshared/plugin' (the generic syntax is 'ln -s filename
linkname', 'ln' meaning link and '-s' for symbolic). I hope that helps
you at all. In general, the strategy is to find the location motmot is
really reading from, and link that to the location your installer is
using. You can use 'locate motmot' to get an exhaustive list of where
motmot files live on your system, and hopefully one of those will jump
out at you. It's kind of a hack, but it does seem to work.

JB

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jessica Fox <jessfox at ucla.edu> wrote:
> I'm trying to register the fview_histogram plugin with fview and I'm a
> little confused about how it works. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and I have the
> Enthought python installed (python 2.7). When I download and install the
> various motmot pieces (motmot.fview-0.6.7, for example), they land in my
> home folder (/home/myusername/motmot.fview-0.6.7) and there's a file in
> there called setup.py. I then type "sudo python setup.py install" in the
> terminal to install it.
>
> However, when I modify that setup.py (in the fview folder) to register the
> plugin and then launch fview, it appears that fview isn't running from that
> location; it's running from /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages, where
> there are several python eggs. Here, there isn't a setup.py file I can
> modify, and fview can't seem to find the Enthought stuff (it's having
> trouble with "import enthought.traits.api as traits"). That it's asking for
> python 2.6 instead of 2.7 is a clue that it's not finding the right files
> somewhere. I'm confused on how I can register the plugin in such a way that
> fview can find it.
>
> I'm brand new to both Linux and Python, so my apologies if these are
> elementary questions. Ultimately, I want to run Flytrax. Right now, both
> FastImage and wxvideo aren't installing correctly from the download (i.e., I
> can download and extract the tarball and run "sudo python setup.py install"
> and it fails partway through), so there may be some issues with those, but I
> wanted to get fview_histogram running first.
>
> On the plus, I'm running a Basler camera and it gets along just fine with
> fview, so that's excellent! This will be super cool if I can get it running.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jessica Fox, UCLA
>
>
> --
> Jessica L. Fox, PhD
> HHMI/UCLA Postdoctoral Associate
> Frye Lab, Terasaki Life Sciences Building
> Los Angeles, CA
> jessfox at ucla.edu
>
> _______________________________________________
> Motmot mailing list
> Motmot at code.astraw.com
> http://code.astraw.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/motmot
>

From jessfox at ucla.edu  Tue Apr 10 20:22:37 2012
From: jessfox at ucla.edu (Jessica Fox)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:22:37 -0700
Subject: [Motmot] FlyTrax setup
Message-ID: <CADyTYN6oT2HYiq8XQfyhNv9tKf64PvBt1bgm5dBo0996U1Usow@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
   I've got a Basler camera, Ubuntu 10.04, and all of the Motmot files
installed (I think). I'd like to use FlyTrax to track points, but I'm
having trouble. When I open the FlyTrax GUI, I don't see a Live view, a
Live diff, or a Live bg. When I click on "Tracking Enabled", I get the
following error: "the camera thread appears to have died unexpectedly. The
log file will have more details." The log file doesn't appear to have any
details that pertain to this, however.
  I CAN collect some data using UFMF FlyTrax, but I don't understand how
the program determines the relevant regions or how to open the resulting
data (in a .ufmf file).
  Is there documentation or a user guide anywhere for these programs?

Finally, I got error messages from gcc when I tried to install the
following programs (using "sudo setup.py install"):
FastImage
fview_ext_trig
imops
realtime_image_analysis

I also get error messages upon starting Fview from the following programs
(they are all looking for missing modules):
strokelitude (missing remote_traits)
fview_ros (missing fview_ros.fview_ros)
fview_SphereTrax (missing adskalman.adskalman).

I recognize that I may not need all of these packages for what I need, just
wanted to alert the developers that there's a problem.

Thank you! Any help will be appreciated.

-- 
Jessica L. Fox, PhD
HHMI/UCLA Postdoctoral Associate
Frye Lab, Terasaki Life Sciences Building
Los Angeles, CA
jessfox at ucla.edu
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From jessfox at ucla.edu  Wed Apr 11 16:12:29 2012
From: jessfox at ucla.edu (Jessica Fox)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:12:29 -0700
Subject: [Motmot] FlyTrax setup
Message-ID: <CADyTYN7aXENo=RTs1mFhWCnuPddQreuDnYrPSE2JguueAmDymQ@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I was able to install everything by making sure to install python-dev
and python-open-cv, and the developer version of Framewave. I'm still
getting errors for those missing modules on the plugins, and I'd still be
interested if anyone has some user info about FlyTrax- how to get the right
points to track, how to read the data files, etc.

I'm also a little confused about the camera's framerate. Under camera
controls, there's a "Maximum framerate" in the upper left, and a
"framerate" under Camera properties in the lower right. My Maximum
framerate is 101, and my framerate is 4095 (no units on either). Neither
one can be changed. How do I set the framerate? I have a Basler A602f.

 Thanks! I feel like I'm getting close!


-- 
Jessica L. Fox, PhD
HHMI/UCLA Postdoctoral Associate
Frye Lab, Terasaki Life Sciences Building
Los Angeles, CA
jessfox at ucla.edu
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From lambe195 at umn.edu  Fri Apr 27 15:57:42 2012
From: lambe195 at umn.edu (Aaron Lambert)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:57:42 -0500
Subject: [Motmot] Will Flee 3 USB 3.0 or Gazelle (Camera Link) work with
	Fview in Windows?
Message-ID: <CANVt1GPpgC91RS9VBTDMxR1q_iSg9btM_O-r=StigYPWux1UAA@mail.gmail.com>

I have been acquiring 60 fps videos via Fview using a Firefly firewire
camera (Point Grey).  However, we are now in the market for a higher speed
camera (to acquire over 200 fps with at least 640 x 480 resolution).  I am
wondering if anyone knows whether a Flee USB 3.0 or Gazelle (Camera Link)
CMOS camera will work with Fview in Windows.

Thanks,
Aaron
-- 
Aaron M. Lambert
Neuroscience Ph.D. Candidate
University of Minnesota- Twin Cities
Department of Neuroscience
Masino Lab
321 E. Church St.
3-145 Jackson Hall
Minneapolis, MN 55455
Lab Phone: 612-625-4412
Cell Phone: 217-649-4703
Email: lambe195 at umn.edu
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From jessfox at ucla.edu  Tue May 15 18:02:46 2012
From: jessfox at ucla.edu (Jessica Fox)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:02:46 -0700
Subject: [Motmot] framerate limit on Basler camera
Message-ID: <CADyTYN5Z94dmJRyvyzCKJq8dgJ5_x_Ps2S68VP47TLCS=dhHcw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
  I've run into a frame limitation that I can't seem to get around. I'm
using a function generator* to drive my Basler camera. I can send fast
pulses to it and my Fview camera controls says my max framerate is 100 (or
even higher, up to 2000 fps or so, if I decrease the ROI), but my actual
framerate never goes above 60 fps. This happens regardless of my plugins,
but I'm ultimately going to be using Flytrax. Is this a CPU issue? Does
anyone have suggestions on how to get around it?


*I do have a external camera trigger and tried using the external trigger
plugin, but it seemed to be skipping pulses above 30Hz or so, and I
switched to the function generator. Works just fine at 50Hz but it would be
nice to go faster.


-- 
Jessica L. Fox, PhD
HHMI/UCLA Postdoctoral Associate
Frye Lab, Terasaki Life Sciences Building
Los Angeles, CA
jessfox at ucla.edu
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From andrew.straw at imp.ac.at  Tue May 15 21:14:16 2012
From: andrew.straw at imp.ac.at (Andrew Straw)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 23:14:16 +0200
Subject: [Motmot] framerate limit on Basler camera
In-Reply-To: <1480f91749ba495197b62b823da72e3d@IMPEXCH10FRONT.imp.univie.ac.at>
References: <1480f91749ba495197b62b823da72e3d@IMPEXCH10FRONT.imp.univie.ac.at>
Message-ID: <4FB2C728.1090305@imp.ac.at>

Hi Jessica,

What is your shutter integration time? The frame rate is also limited by 
this. For example, if your exposures are 10 msec each, you will never 
exceed 100 fps.

-Andrew

On 15-May-12 20:02, Jessica Fox wrote:
> Hello,
>   I've run into a frame limitation that I can't seem to get around. 
> I'm using a function generator* to drive my Basler camera. I can send 
> fast pulses to it and my Fview camera controls says my max framerate 
> is 100 (or even higher, up to 2000 fps or so, if I decrease the ROI), 
> but my actual framerate never goes above 60 fps. This happens 
> regardless of my plugins, but I'm ultimately going to be using 
> Flytrax. Is this a CPU issue? Does anyone have suggestions on how to 
> get around it?
>
>
> *I do have a external camera trigger and tried using the external 
> trigger plugin, but it seemed to be skipping pulses above 30Hz or so, 
> and I switched to the function generator. Works just fine at 50Hz but 
> it would be nice to go faster.
>
>
> -- 
> Jessica L. Fox, PhD
> HHMI/UCLA Postdoctoral Associate
> Frye Lab, Terasaki Life Sciences Building
> Los Angeles, CA
> jessfox at ucla.edu <mailto:jessfox at ucla.edu>


-- 
Andrew D. Straw, Ph.D.
Research Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP)
Vienna, Austria
http://strawlab.org/

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